Ticketmaster Surge Pricing


*** update – at the bottom I explain how the entire Taylor Swift fiasco could have been avoided

 

I guess we should talk about TicketMasters on demand pricing. I dont even want to talk about TM anymore. They have done it. They won. They broke me. I just don’t bother to go to many concerts anymore. Not when I know I have to do the impossible pre-sale dance to get tickets to a show, or pay 3x the value.

 

In a twisted way, though, they have taken steps to fix that. They are now allowing for market demand to dictate pricing. Well use Springsteen as an (unfortunate) example. TM knows they will sell tickets for $125 each for floor seats. They know that ALL of those tickets will go to scalpers. All of them. They also know that these seats will all end up selling for two or three thousand bucks a piece on the open market. So, TM figures fuck the scalpers. If they are going to sell for $3K, we should get that money! Springsteen should get that money!and you know what?

 

I agree

 

Prince actually invented pioneered this. About 20 years ago (giver or take a decade or so) he did a clubtour. He knew that $75 would get snapped up and sold on the black market for four times that much. He also cant make a living playing a venue for $75. So, he charged $250 a ticket.  People were outraged, but I think its brilliant. Here is why the tickets are going to go for several hundred bucks. Should Prince get that money, or the scalpers? By doing this, he blocks out the scalpersAND makes a better payday. Note, that was $250. Springsteen tickets have been doing for $5K, face value.

 

I love the idea of squeezing out the scalpers. But due to the dynamic pricingmodel, floor seats are $5k. It kills me they tested this on Springsteen, who is notoriously pro-blue collar working folks getting his tickets. No, its not just an imagine, he really does. His camp is notorious for never selling the front row to his shows. Instead, those are given out to people with the worst seats in the housefreeright before the show.

 

At $5k, that person never has a chance to go see the boss. IF the tickets go for $5K, I do believe that should all to the artist. But boy, that seems a bit high.

 

Mind you, TM is no Robin Hood here, either. As you now know, their convenience feesrun 30 to 50% of face value of ticket price. I know convenience feesfor Springsteen tickets were running close to $1,000. Now, how is that little piece of cardstock any tougher to print than a play that costs $14 to get into? Even better, they dont even print tickets anymore. Tickets are virtual, a QA code in your phone.

 

There is a way to squeeze out the black market. Make the seats will call. Instead of showing a QR codethe ticket taker person scans your drivers license. I know this technology works because I have had to use it before. That way, the person who put the credit card down is the

person who has to show up. what about transferring tickets? Isnt that your right? What if you bought them and cant go. What if you want your tickets to go to a little blind deaf orphan? How would will call work, then? I would charge a $30 transfer fee.

Don’t tell me a $30 transfer fee is unjust when it means you paid $132 for a ticket instead of $1,322 for a ticket. That fee will also be a HUGE pain in the ass to scalpers.

 

As I said, I feel compelled to journal this development since I have been hassling them for 20 years online.  Here.  And here.  And here.  And here.  And here.  Also, there is here, and here, and here, too.  Oops, here, too.

Update – How to have avoided the Taylor Swift fiasco

TM took a LOT of grief for their systems freezing up and crashing during the Taylor Swift stadium tour onsale event.  Good.  Fuck them.  It was SO avoidable.  They put 52 football stadiums up for sale at the same time.  Why?  Stagger the sales, would have fixed EVERYTHING.  Split the onsales into three weekends, staggered.  Heck, just split them across a day.  First leg goes onsale at 10am, second leg, at noon… etc.  The average NFL stadium holds 75 thousand people.  75,000 times 52 dates is 3,900,000.   They put four million tickets up for sale at the exact same time.  Dumbfucks.  Didn’t they learn from the last crash?  Before this, the biggest demand TM had ever seen at once when they the Grateful Dead reunions shows went up for sale.  Back in 2015, they put onsale 3 days at Soldier Field (the Chicago Bears stadium, and site of Jerry’s last show).  That was 225 thousand tickets (75,000 times 3 shows).  They got over a million requests, and their system locked up and crashed.  I remember this, I was online getting tickets that morning.  Through 9 computers online, we got a set of four finally.  I was very happy, that was all we wanted.

So if a million ticket requests is a strain… which I fully get.  Why would you put 4 million tickets on sale at the exact same minute?  Also, know that demand with scalpers and all was likely double or triple.  I remember they did this in Denver years ago, on a smaller scale… but same results.  One Saturday morning (all ticket onsales are on Saturday mornings at 10am) they put up for sale in the Denver market a football game, a few hockey games, and some concerts.  A few hundred thousand tickets all went on sale at 10am.  Wtf?  How about this, you sons of bitches… “If you are calling for the Broncos game, tickets go onsale at noon local time in your market.  If you are calling for any concert tickets, press 1 to be placed in queue at 10am.  If you are calling for anything else, please call back at 2pm”.   Stagger the sales, you rat bastards.  What is your staffing model?  Every TM employee works from 9:45am to 2pm every Saturday… and that’s it?

Side bar tangent

Since we are talking about tickets, lets talk about the actual physical thing… the cardstock printed concert ticket.  You know this, its gone.  It’s been gone for a year, and I miss them.  Concert tickets were the perfect souvenir.  It’s small, so it takes up no space.  It remains a perfect memory.  We have seen them disappear for a while.  It was a period where it was an email, and now its fully digital.  I was seeing Bobby Weir again last weekend.  As is always the case, I have to assume I may never see him again.  Him being 75 leaves me with fear that he will retire or die before I get to see him again.  It’s been like that for at least a decade, though.  Once he started growing the beard, he aged FAST.  Bobby was literally a child when he joined the Grateful Dead… 16.  Point being, if this is the last time we see him, I’d like that souvenir ticket.  I could do a frame of just Dead related bands I’ve seen since Jerry passed:  Dead and Co, The Dead, Grateful Dead, the Other Ones, Phil and Friends

 


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